I Think They Liked It Honey

I Think They Liked It Honey

I Think They Liked It Honey

ASIN: B000009CIU

Editorial Reviews
From Jazziz
The aptly titled Ornery People is a sax-and-bass duo. Three of the six tracks are credited to Berne, two to Formanek, and one to both of them. In general, Berne is more restrained than usual here. The album's tracks are also shorter than the epic improvisations of his groups Bloodcount and Paraphrase. As it turns out, the tight focus of duo work leads Berne to concentrate his statements more than usual. This lends a more homogeneous feel to each track, almost as if each is an _tude.

The disc opens with Formanek playing alone for nearly a minute and a half on his composition "Jiggle the Handle," displaying a broad range of techniques including con legno (playing with the wooden part of the bow) and double and triple stops. When Berne enters on alto, it's with a plaintive theme that recalls early Ornette Coleman. On "Byram's World," Berne toys with small motifs, varying the accents and phrasing on each repetition, adding and subtracting bits, circling through them in a sort of jazz minimalism.

"Stubborn Love" is a study in timbres, with Berne (on baritone) starting with quiet altissimo tones. The middle section is even quieter and finds sax and bass twining around each other, sometimes together, sometimes splitting off, with Berne throwing in some harmonics.

Formanek's lengthy solo on "Are We There Yet" is a well-constructed dialogue between the upper and lower ranges of his instrument. When Berne enters, there's almost a bebop feel to his perpetual-motion lines. It's Berne who starts solo on "Emerger," the space in his tender melodies showing the influence of his mentor, Julius Hemphill. The album's last tune - the 14-minute, co-composed "Brincident" - finally fully unleashes Berne's screaming, unbridled power.

Throughout, Ornery People grows organically, without the abrupt shifts and occasional doldrums that have sometimes plagued Berne's past work. Quiet intensity is the watchword, and the result is one of his most consistent recorded efforts.

--- Steve Holtje, JAZZIZ Magazine Copyright © 2000, Milor Entertainment, Inc.

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I Think They Liked It Honey
Average customer rating: 5 out of 5 stars
  • ducret adds on
  • A very good album - get's better after the first listen.
  • Uncompromising music for these troubled times
  • Bass? No, not here - don't need it.
  • laughing between my ears
I Think They Liked It Honey
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Manufacturer: Winter & Winter
ProductGroup: Music
Binding: Audio CD

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ASIN: B000009CIU
Release Date: 1997-04-19

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Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars ducret adds on.......2006-01-24

just a note that the above review is based on "ornery people" not the BIG SATAN release we are here to review....can someone fix this oh yeah...by the way BIG SATAN ROX THE CASBAH>! they do not need a bass....they have DAvid Torn!!!!! mix master on the microphone {not really]..but here they just have fun filled conversations once they are done playing Berne's "melody trivia games"

5 out of 5 stars A very good album - get's better after the first listen........2003-06-02

The first time I heard this album (the day I bought it) I thought - "oh, wow, just what I expected, all improvising." Granted I was doing some other things while listening - at the time. After giving the album my full attention, I began to hear the details of compositions and I was floored at the complexity and dexterity of the musicians playing them. Wow! I'm still getting my teeth into this one - and I just saw these guys perform live at the Knitting Factory (June 6th 2003) and they were stunning! Incredible! The magic really comes across live. Do not miss out, order this album now!

4 out of 5 stars Uncompromising music for these troubled times.......2001-09-18

"I think they liked it honey" (actual title) - I know I did.

At a long 77 minutes, this set should come as no surprise to long-term Berne fans; he frequently stretches out in order to complicate, redefine, and intrigue. This set, notable for its inclusion of *genie francais* Marc Ducret on guitar, is similar in methodology, but unique in texture.

Berne doubles on baritone and alto, and provides lines clear and brittle like Jimmy Lyons or Julius Hemphill. Also, as drummer Tom Rainey is often involved in rupturing the rhythm and then congealing it, Berne is often forced to keep the pulse while inventing new melodic shells- almost like an R&B horn section finally trying to explain the ugly truths underneath its veneer. Throughout, Ducret never shies from flipping his switch to eleven and bouncing cagily through the proceedings. He provides a surprising flavor that sits satisfyingly in the belly.

Overall, challenging long-form tunes with enough twists, dives, and truths to reward repeated listenings.

5 out of 5 stars Bass? No, not here - don't need it........2000-07-01

I put off buying this CD for a long time because there was no bass player on it. I prefer to listen to music with a solid low end on it and although I liked the three musicians on this recording I passed on it. Then I started listening to other configurations where the low end was being held down by a cello, a tuba, or organ pedals. Thus prepared, I bought this CD. I listened to the whole thing - through headphones - and not once did I ever think about the missing bassist. The way Berne, Ducret, and Rainey interact on this recording is amazing. It's like a polyrhymic melody/exercise in counterpoint. Adding another musician would only make the sound more dense; in this configuration there is room to hear each player individually as well as collectively. Very lively and complex. Recommended for adventurous jazz fans.

5 out of 5 stars laughing between my ears.......1999-05-10

Violent, free, beautiful, and human. I could not find better words.

These men are actually playing a much too much exciting music. I don't know if jazz remains the best descriptor.

Winter & Winter is a new label designed for this kind of strange guys. Read their catalog, and if you came to Big Satan via Tim Berne, look for Marc Ducret's other records.

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